I am not interested in pouring concrete slab.
I need some help with other ideas on how to build a floor for my outside kennel.
Could you assist me on ideas that I can use for my floor?
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Gordon Kennel |
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I have a 20'x30' kennel that I built on an open piece of grass. I quickly found out that grass is not the best flooring material for a kennel. My
kennel floor is now all dirt and mud.
I am not interested in pouring concrete slab. I need some help with other ideas on how to build a floor for my outside kennel. Could you assist me on ideas that I can use for my floor? Me: |
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MargeMM.saintbernardofa... |
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Three inches of sand with three inches of pea gravel or pea stone (whatever they call it up there) on top. You will need to place boards or something around
the outside to hold it inside the kennel.
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dankasaints.saintbernardofa... |
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First Good Luck - Here what we are in the process of doing - have portable kennels right now - 10X20, 10X10, 6X8, and a small pen/kennel 5X7. Also placed on
grass. I am in the process of first Laying down 2"x4" welded wire under each bottom rail of each panel (this is to prevent digging out). Then placing
either 5/7 rock (this is what they use for drive ways - gravel roads around here) or pea gravel. Either going to build out of "Decking Materials" or
Palets to set the dog houses on. If I build out of the Decking material will have the house approximately 4 inches off the ground, and the pallet maybe about
the height. Also have a canopy over the dog house/eating areas.
I have also reinforced the chainlink around the corners and bottoms of the panels, to keep the dogs from push the chainlink away from the metal frames. For the reinforcement I used 2"x4" welded wire and secured it with 17 guage electric fence wire, and pretty much tied it (Wrapped it actually around the frame and wrapped it several times). I did this about every 6-8 inches, more in the corners. This made two barriers that they would have to try and push or pull through. For my gate areas, I have set two piece of rebar also reinforce and keep the dogs from pushing the gates open - but the Gates open in for us to have access inside the kennels, but the dogs are not able to push the gates outwards. Hope that helps. Rolland DANKA Saints www.dankasaints.com |
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Gordon Kennel |
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sure, do you have any pics of your kennel?
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godsgiftkennel.saintbernardofa... |
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I have had the pea gravel and also the small rock that is used for driveways. I found that the rock will pack down and it makes it a lot easiet to scoop pooh
than the pea gravel. When I had the pea gravel, it all stuck to the pooh and I was constantly needing to replace it. I think either of them was about the same
as far as comfort to the feet of the dogs.
I am just getting ready to move so am starting this week on a new kennel. I have concrete floors now inside my kennel. I also have horse mats on top of the floor. I think that is comfortable for the dogs. The rock is in the kennel runs. I am interested in thoughts and ideas. Wouldn't it be wonderful to build something and not find that you wish you had done something different. Sharon |
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paula |
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I have poured cement in my runs for the older dogs because it is easier for me to keep clean but in the puppy and young dog runs I have about 2 inches of sand
with 4 inches of #8 limestone. It works very well for their feet and it drains well, although drainage is not much of a problem because the kennel is on the
side of a mountain. The runs themselves are made of 2 block high cement block with round metal pipe as posts, then 4 by 16 foot panels of welded wire (goat)
fence. The runs are 40 foot long and 8 foot wide and they open into my main kennel building for feeding and sleeping. The inside runs are 6 foot deep. We have
only moved in here about 3 months ago, so I am still working on putting up stockade type fence around the whole property. If you would like to see pictures, I
can send you some. Paula
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Gordon Kennel |
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Please send pictures - they are worth 1000 words!!!
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dankasaints.saintbernardofa... |
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Bill,
Paulasent me some photos of her runs - and i realy like the way she has them set up. Michele and I hopefully will be able to do this one day. I like the two rows of Block, and then the - Goat or Cattle Panels mounted on top. We have a local Tractor Supply that sells the panels in 16 foot lenghts for like 30 bucks they are 16X4, I also liked how Paula, had metal flashing wrapped around her (well they look like 6X6 or 8X8) supports to keep the littel chew-bandits from crewing them up. Pretty ingenious. The welded wire goat or cattle panels I feel sould be strong enough to keep them in (if they can hold goats and cattle) should (Hopefully) be able to hold Saints. LOL Rolland DANKA Saints www.dankasaints.com |
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godsgiftkennel.saintbernardofa... |
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Hi, I think those panels in my area are called cattle panels. I can get them in 4ft. high panels or I can get them in 53 in. high panels. I like the higher
ones and I believe they are the same price.
Sharon. They are a nice heavy gauge and work wonderfully. Sharon www.godsgiftkennel.com |
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Gordon Kennel |
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So this is what I ended up doing to my kennel. The kennel is 30'x20' against the side of my house, the next step is to reconfigured the basement to
put inside kennels downstairs, we can access through the bulkhead pictured in the kennel. I need to seal up the concrete first.
You will notice the 3/4" peastone flooring, under the 3" covering of peastone you would find a 2"x1" welded wire fence to prevent digging, the welded wire fence is connected to the chainlink by chicken wire along the edges. Under the welded wire fence is lanscaping fabric to prevent weeds, Under the fabric is the orignal dirt floor which has proven to absord water amazingly. There is a shade tree to the right of the kennel and the house will shade the afternoon sun. It's not perfect, but its a start. I think that I will need to add 2"x12" board along the bottom edges of the kennel to keep the peastone in. Yesterday we had a torrential rainstorm, and we did not have one puddle in the kennel. Here is a picture, what do you think? Me: |
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MargeMM.saintbernardofa... |
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It looks good! The sand I recommended was for drainage, so hopefully your soil is sandy enough to provide that; otherwise your kennel will eventually start
being smelly. Yes, you will have to use boards to keep the gravel in. You will have to replace gravel periodically, particularly since you have laid the wire
underneath. That kind of worries me a little because as they move around and play, they will "relocate" the gravel (just by whirling around), and it
may get down to the wire and hurt their feet.
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Gordon Kennel |
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I agree with that Marge, we will have to watch the gravel closely, lucky enough it is easy to rake around. The area of which the used for thier charp turns has
extra gravel and is about 6" deep. If I didn't put the wire fence in, I would be battling a Saint Bernard "backhoe." If I have problems with
the turn areas (behind thier dogs houses, maybe I can put down some horsemats. Hopefully with time, they will pack it in a bit.
Our soil is very soluable, we proved that with our new septic system perk tests. They were amazed how fast liquids passed though. So I hope that will help keep the smell down. I was considering putting in the sand bottom, but in order to do so I would of had to dig 3"-6" of soil out by hand, if not the sand and gravel would of been higher than my basement openings, ie: windows and bulkhead, causing water to leak into my basement. I found a bunch of unused siding lying around from when we put the addition on, I used that as trim board to keep the gravel in, so far so good and easy to work with. Thanks for your help! Me: |
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dankasaints.saintbernardofa... |
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The pictures and discription looks great - think I might take a couple of ideas from you to add to our Runs. The Siding over deck boards sounds great.
Though thought I would share our experience with the Pea Gravel - clulmps a little in "Clean Up" so we used the 5-7 Rock here - (Basically Road/Driveway Gravel) - Dogs dont seem to mind and easier on the clean up. Also we have both sun screens over the runs or a Canopy Covers to help with the elements.. But the Kenne looks good!!!!! |
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